In this episode Interview with Dr. Dann Spader, founder of Sonlife Ministries and currently serves as President of Global Youth Initiative, an alliance of organizations in 95 countries committed to “equipping young leaders for movements of multiplication.” He’s trained 750,000+ people in 90+ countries to make disciples through organizations he has led. He is national speaker and author of 4 Chair Discipling, Walk Like Jesus, Live Like Jesus and co-author of Growing a Healthy Church and The Everyday Commission, among other titles. • Find out why Dann spells his name with two n’s “nn” and what it’s like growing up with 15 siblings! • Dr. Spader talks key elements of a healthy church and why many churches fail; trying to put new wine in an old wineskin • Dann talks about the importance of changing values before you change structure • Spader shares the need for a movement not more programs and the critical difference • He gives an overview of the 4 Chairs of Discipling o Come and see (the lost-John 1:39) o Come follow me (the believer-John 1:43) o Become fishers of men (the worker-Matthew 4:19) o Go and bear fruit (disciplemaker-John 15:16) • One must fall in love with real Jesus not a version of Jesus based on what you get from Him • There is a “Yes” to be put on the table at every level of a believer’s walk with Christ • Scott talks about moving people from being the recipient of the church’s mission to being responsible for the mission • Dann dives deeper into John 15 and the blessing of being pruned. Ouch! • Scott and Dann talk about key differences between discipleship in America with limited results and disciplemaking movements happening across the globe